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    Re: Orange Phase Eastern Garter. Is it a dominant gene?

    Quote Originally Posted by Philminator View Post
    Here's a few pics of her, she doesn't look orange but believe me when I tell you in person and next to my other easterns she's very orange. My camera is making me look like a liar lol I almost took pics of my other yellow ones so you could see the difference.

    PS view below one post to see a much more accurate picture of her colour
    I would say that's a normal eastern and what I said about the color would apply. Shannon was talking specifically about flames and that is not polygenic but does some variance in shade and intensity. Like she was saying, it depends on what is causing the color. In your case, the orange snake is just a normal and the color is the result of polymorphism. He could have come from a litter that produced snakes that were variable in color and pattern. He just happened to come out orange as he matured. Other siblings of his might have turned out to look more typical of what you find in the area.

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    Re: Orange Phase Eastern Garter. Is it a dominant gene?

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    I would say that's a normal eastern and what I said about the color would apply. Shannon was talking specifically about flames and that is not polygenic but does some variance in shade and intensity. Like she was saying, it depends on what is causing the color. In your case, the orange snake is just a normal and the color is the result of polymorphism. He could have come from a litter that produced snakes that were variable in color and pattern. He just happened to come out orange.
    ok great and what you mentioned earlier still applies I assume where by if I keep the brightest orange of the babies and if they bred later they could end up having brighter orange.

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    Re: Orange Phase Eastern Garter. Is it a dominant gene?

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    I would say that's a normal eastern and what I said about the color would apply. Shannon was talking specifically about flames and that is definitely not polymorphism responsible for their color.
    no, i was talking about flames AND flame-type-oranges, the orange easterns that have orange running the entire length of their body, and most of them also have orange on both sides of their belly. I can see that the photos are skewed a bit, colorwise, fading out her color but she does look like one of those classic orange canadians, beautiful snakes! and Flame is a polygenic effect, it's not simply on and off, you get NICE flames, then you get some that are in between, then some that are barely red or orange at all... and then of course the only way to breed really nice flames is selectively, by selecting individuals with the nicest red or orange pigment.
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