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    Re: I too saw Scott's ad and would like everyone's opinion.

    It depends on what you would prefer as the (likely) temperament of the snake.

    The Similis have a reputation for being feisty, nippy to downright mean, they get fairly large.

    Pickeringii (Puget sound garter) are somewhat more mellow but in my limited experience are still a little nervous when handled.

    A Blue Axanthic Plains Garter Snake (Blue Radix) is most likely to be the mellowest and tolerate handling the best.

    Richard may chime in with his experiences with the blue concinnus he kept.

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    Re: I too saw Scott's ad and would like everyone's opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by infernalis View Post
    Richard may chime in with his experiences with the blue concinnus he kept.
    Sorry, I missed this until now. The blue concinnus' are pretty much like any other sirtalis and they (all concinnus') are genetically nearly identical to Pugets. The thing is, nobody is currently producing blue concinnus'. I only just discovered them in the wild in 2010 and there are only a few pair of adults in captivity, which haven't produced any offspring. I believe that Don and Shannon are the only two people that got pairs which were carefully selected for their very blue coloration. Scott doesn't work with concinnus' at all, of any color. Another thing to mention is that with pugets and the blue phase concinnus', there's no guarantees as to how intensely colored, or how blue or greenish they will be if you buy babies. Exeptionally blue pugets or concinnus' are not exactly typical. Often they turn out to just be a pale bluish green or just pale green and there's no way to know which babies will color up as adults. If you're counting on a very blue snake, then I suggest you buy an adult puget that has already colored up because as I said, very intense blue individuals are really the exception and they only occur in a very small part of the total natural range. That goes for concinnus' and pugets.

    You know how those diet or "get rich quick" advertisements put fine print that says "results not typical" ? Well, unfortunately, when people show pictures of the blue snakes, they fail to put in fine print "color not typical of this subspecies" and so people get the wrong impression and rush right out to buy a puget, thinking it will be blue, when in fact, most are not.

    Just wanted to be clear on that since it seems that the pictures of exceptionally blue pugets on his website, aren't even his.
    Last edited by ConcinusMan; 12-24-2011 at 08:23 PM.

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