general questions

[infernalis]

Chances are, they are related.

Like it has been said before, this strain has been heavily inbred forever.

[PINJOHN]

Chances are, they are related.

Like it has been said before, this strain has been heavily inbred forever.

maybe this could be an opportunity for those members with some knowledge of genetics to map out a way to freshen up our albino checkereds in future generations.
i know it can be complicated talking genes but is there a way to explain it to us thicko's.
for instance i have 1 albino female 1 normal female both unrelated, two unrelated males one of whom is from a wild caught father,....i have some young from the albino and male number2 also young from the normal female and the son of the wild caught ....the question is would that be enough genetic material to out cross and eventually get a vigorous albino and if so how many generations would it take to reach that point.

[chris-uk]

maybe this could be an opportunity for those members with some knowledge of genetics to map out a way to freshen up our albino checkereds in future generations.
i know it can be complicated talking genes but is there a way to explain it to us thicko's.
for instance i have 1 albino female 1 normal female both unrelated, two unrelated males one of whom is from a wild caught father,....i have some young from the albino and male number2 also young from the normal female and the son of the wild caught ....the question is would that be enough genetic material to out cross and eventually get a vigorous albino and if so how many generations would it take to reach that point.

I prepared a better answer to you yesterday John, but tried posting it twice with my phone screwing it up each time. Summary - you could introduce new genetic material over 4-5 years. At some point you get back to albinos you will have to pair half siblings, which isn't ideal but I'd wager that in the past your albino has either brother-sister or mother-son pairings.
Over 4 years you'd be able to get a half brother and sister, with the brother being 2 generations removed from WC. So at the end of the day you will end up with a close-relation pairing, however it would at least have good new genetic material from the WC. Starting with just a single albino I don't think you can do, any better, and whether the WC great-grandfather would be enough to strengthen the strain... I'm not sure, but better than breeding close relations without having the WC in the family tree.

I was going to post a picture of my scribbles working through the family tree, but that's when I lost my replies yesterday.

[catfishrod69]

ok i understand that. just wasnt sure on if i should breed them or not. i mean chances they are related, but that doesnt mean they are. what do you think?

I prepared a better answer to you yesterday John, but tried posting it twice with my phone screwing it up each time. Summary - you could introduce new genetic material over 4-5 years. At some point you get back to albinos you will have to pair half siblings, which isn't ideal but I'd wager that in the past your albino has either brother-sister or mother-son pairings.
Over 4 years you'd be able to get a half brother and sister, with the brother being 2 generations removed from WC. So at the end of the day you will end up with a close-relation pairing, however it would at least have good new genetic material from the WC. Starting with just a single albino I don't think you can do, any better, and whether the WC great-grandfather would be enough to strengthen the strain... I'm not sure, but better than breeding close relations without having the WC in the family tree.

I was going to post a picture of my scribbles working through the family tree, but that's when I lost my replies yesterday.

[catfishrod69]

well im really hoping not. i have been planning on pairing them for two years now.

Chances are, they are related.

Like it has been said before, this strain has been heavily inbred forever.