New garter - I just couldn't help myself

[chris-uk]

Whatever it is. There's some more new blood sat in my hallway John, if you ever need stud services.

I just wish some of the shops would challenge the naming - if I owned a shop in wouldn't deal with a supplier who didn't work with scientific names, if you know the scientific name you know it's not a "Northern Garter Snake". At the end of the day I think the shops just want garters on the shelf to cater for freaks like us (who won't buy a boa or python) and as a smaller snake to sell to people who look a the pythons and say "oooh, that's a bit big". I haven't heard of any shops that really care to supply garters, perhaps Coast to Coast is the closest but even there it seems to be a second or third line of sales.
Sod it, continental breeders are the way to go. Or you need to know the garter people who have breeding pairs.

[gregmonsta]

perhaps Coast to Coast is the closest but even there it seems to be a second or third line of sales.

.... they again don't care about IDs or the market ... they are part of my 'frustratation' list ... like to sell 'Northern garters' Texas ribbons' and WON'T take correction ... they know best as far as their point of contact on RFUK goes ... an exchange of PMs did nothing and neither did publicly causing a fuss on one of their threads.
As far as the market goes ... he'll happily tell Sjoerd that he can't sell garters in Britain to bash the price down and then sell these CB animals at less than accepted European breeder price. I know we all love a bargain ... but no wonder the British market is dead. Not many people will see the value in/'appreciate' the value in a snake they can pick up privately for £10-15 or, indeed, one that shops don't differenciate the price of CB/WC for.
Anyway ..... parietalis not 100% on sex but this is my male: