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    Re: wild garters cross breeding in the wild.

    It is scientifically proven ...
    Science, as a rule, never proves anything. Gravity, evolution, etc. are all theories. A theory may have a lot of evidence to support it, but it can never be "proven." This is a basic "rule" of science.

    Here's a three-way atratus cross (Santa Cruz, Oregon and Diablo Range Garter Snake) that I found last year.

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    Re: wild garters cross breeding in the wild.

    Quote Originally Posted by paulh View Post
    Here's a three-way atratus cross (Santa Cruz, Oregon and Diablo Range Garter Snake) that I found last year.

    And where is the DNA test results that brought you to that conclusion? And besides, those are all the same species. Without the DNA testing to prove it, you simply have an intergrade. It doesn't mean you have a hybrid.

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    Re: wild garters cross breeding in the wild.

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    And where is the DNA test results that brought you to that conclusion? And besides, those are all the same species. Without the DNA testing to prove it, you simply have an intergrade. It doesn't mean you have a hybrid.
    It may be an intergrade, it may be an intraspecific hybrid. If it's a cross involving different subspecies, it's the latter. It may even be both.

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