Quote Originally Posted by RedSidedSPR View Post
True, although I think it has more to do with Rooster being a concinnus (red spot). They get much bigger then most garters.
I wouldn't say that. I think just about all T. sirtalis subspecies, but perhaps especially the western ones, all get to be about the same size. I'm pretty sure that rooster was from one of my litters last year. But anyway, they do have a tendency to get big fast. They are in a big hurry to grow out of the baby stage. This takes them off the menu for many predators, mainly small birds, but it also allows them to take advantage of larger food items such as rough skinned newts and bullfrogs sooner. A captive concinnus at around 4-5 months old will get as big as a year-old one would in the wild.