They are deff T. s. fitchi, sorry about the first pic, I didn't realize I couldn't go back and edit it.
Here is a pic from today:



Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
Southern oregon...

No way red sided (CA or Canadian kind) occur near Medford. CA red sided might be around Brookings though. No concinnus' down Medford way either. I can't see the pics (I've come to expect this from photobucket users. DON'T move or delete your photos after you hotlink them!) but it does sound like T. s. fitchi. I know they are called "valley garters" but this refers to mountain valleys, which is where Medford sits.

Although a snake on this page is listed as "western terrestrial" (not even close) it is a T.s. fitchi from Medford.



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