Hello from Oregon

[Light of Dae]

I think they are all Northwestern Garters or T. Ordinoides... They show great polymorphisim within local areas and within the same litters sometimes.

[ProXimuS]

I think they are all Northwestern Garters or T. Ordinoides... They show great polymorphisim within local areas and within the same litters sometimes.

I think I'll lean more n that direction. The one I was thinking of, that the middle one looked like was and ordinoides, not a pickeringii, like I thought for some reason