Brumation advice.

[ConcinusMan]

I noticed one of the baby San Fransisco was very sluggish, wasn't happy about the way it looked, separated, yet she was dead by the next day . they had fresh water etc, but I think I may have had them a little too warm.

Don't sweat it! You're probably doing "better" than nature could. A little too cold... a little too warm ... too much food.. not enough... What the hell man!

Many people only want "what's natural" for their garter snakes. Well... you got it! What's natural is that the majority of them die before they're old enough to reproduce.

If there's any need to elaborate more..

I mean... if you think such losses are "unnatural" just say the word and I'll show some statistics.

If we really want what's natural for our captive garter snake than you should expect that around 95% of captive-born garters should be dead by age 18 months. SRYSLY.

There's a very good reason why a female garter that survives 5 or 6 years has so many offspring in that time. Sure, she may give birth to 1,000 offspring in her life. So what? 996 if them might never reach breeding age. It's the other 4 that count.

[CrazyHedgehog]

Don't sweat it! You're probably doing "better" than nature could.

Thanks, that made me feel better!.. expensive loss though!@ £75... but I knew they were a risk at the time