Note that i put (possible red hypo?) in my thread. I'm not sure what to call him at this point. I have lots of normal garter snakes and morphs as well and would never try to put a label on a snake without proving it out. I love normal easterns as that is always what i caught as a kid, but this snake is not a normal. Hypo may not be the right term, but he is something different. I will try to get some better pics of him outside to see if i can capture his true colors. I have seen pics of reddish colored easterns including joe's and this guy looks nothing like them. I hope i can get some better pics that will showcase his colors.
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there is nothing wrong with the "normal" label... Haha. I don't know why we strive so hard to apply special labels to snakes sometimes.... It's a beautiful animal! Like i said i know of a locale where you can find this exact look. Borderline hypo and all. Even that same exact stripe. In fact tom also gave me a field collected adult male that looked like this as well. It had a few kinks along it's spine though. Come to pa, and i will take you to a place where you can see more like this one! Also some of them have brilliant, salmon pink bellies. And sometimes i find them like this but without a dorsal. But same idea... Weird and pale... No black. The beauty of "normal" thamnophis is that they are rarely normal at all. There is so much variation even within one subspecies, it is amazing. I would be proud to have that snake in my collection. But i would not go crazy trying to label it.