Quote Originally Posted by Greg'sGarters View Post
What makes these harder to acquire is that it is illegal to take snakes from the Narcisse Snake Dens, so these may be the offspring of illegally captured snakes. This does upset me if their parents or ancestors were illegally captured. However, these guys are CB. If any of you guys are thinking of prices on the offspring, the babies will cost the same or less than normal Red-sideds.

Also, I am aware that it is possible to catch these in places other than the Narcisse Snake Dens, but these types of Red-sideds are most famous for the ones found at the Snake Dens so that is why I am naming them after that.
Tons of these WC red sides end up in Europe every year sold as "northern garter" . Makes me wonder how many die before they even make it to market over there.