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[Albert Clark]

you can do the same pairing every year and get different results each time ahaha the thing that dont change is morphs produced

That depends on what you are pairing up first. Then the odds gods come into play and put their 0.02 cents in. Thirdly, genetics is not a absolute science and there are always unknown variables like retained sperm, any genetic het variables.

[Tommytradix]

That depends on what you are pairing up first. Then the odds gods come into play and put their 0.02 cents in. Thirdly, genetics is not a absolute science and there are always unknown variables like retained sperm, any genetic het variables.

retained sperm has nothing to do with genetics lol if you only pair one female with the same male every time

and in all my pairings i have never been able to tell if any snake was het or normal the mutant gene is not expressed in hets which is why it is a het and not the morph
if you breed 2 dark radix together that are het albino the normals will still be dark and albino look like albinos only variations ive seen is pattern

[Dan72]

Tommy I know hets look normal, I should have used another word, what I was asking is that in order to use the Punnet Square Calculator you have to have something to plug into the square and what do examples of the genes that the animal carry look like? Like Jeff on his page when he used an albino as an example it was represented as aa, where as a het normal type was Aa, does everyone use these two or he just made them up? Like for the square could an axanthic be represented as xx, where a het normal (for axanthic) be Ax? A dbl het normal type for albino and axanthic be AaAx? Or like you pointed out think of a snow as being a dbl het, for anery and albino, so in the square what does that look like? AaAan, the Aa being het albino gene the Aan being the one for anery? That is what my question was about, is there a chart somewhere that is established to use for the PS Caculator for the different morphs in radix or eastern or whatever or do people just make up their own system as long as you know what you are representing. Was that confusing?

[Dan72]

Because what I would like to do what I would like to figure out at some point is producing red radix that are het for both albino types and then possibly as a bonus the offspring of this pair could also produce Christmas as well. So using the PS calculator I'm trying to figure out how to get there. The other animal as pairs that would be cool to have in a collection (to me) would be a normal/wild type radix but was a multiple het animal that could produce both albino type along with anery and snow. So a powerhouse of an animal which when looking at the clutch it was just a rainbow of morphs in one litter. Don had an animal (Cariad??) she was/is the mascot of the forum, but she was an animal that as a normal/wild type she was het for multiple kinds of morphs. And what I always thought I saw in her (maybe just me) but if you go back in those threads and really look at her in the pics, you can almost see in her scales these little individual scales that are red, black, white, like she was telling you I unlock all this stuff. Now I'm rambling, but how did this snake come about? Was in purposeful line breeding of certain animals over years of projects (which of course it was) but knowingly, or dumb luck?

[Tommytradix]

Because what I would like to do what I would like to figure out at some point is producing red radix that are het for both albino types and then possibly as a bonus the offspring of this pair could also produce Christmas as well. So using the PS calculator I'm trying to figure out how to get there. The other animal as pairs that would be cool to have in a collection (to me) would be a normal/wild type radix but was a multiple het animal that could produce both albino type along with anery and snow. So a powerhouse of an animal which when looking at the clutch it was just a rainbow of morphs in one litter. Don had an animal (Cariad??) she was/is the mascot of the forum, but she was an animal that as a normal/wild type she was het for multiple kinds of morphs. And what I always thought I saw in her (maybe just me) but if you go back in those threads and really look at her in the pics, you can almost see in her scales these little individual scales that are red, black, white, like she was telling you I unlock all this stuff. Now I'm rambling, but how did this snake come about? Was in purposeful line breeding of certain animals over years of projects (which of course it was) but knowingly, or dumb luck?

look at scotts site under price list and look at quad hets
i just sold adult red radix that were het for both types and still have a pair i picked up 2.2 from scott

to produce quad hets that are red you would need a nebraska snow and a iowa snow both from red parents and breed them together which will produce all normals. about half will show red then when you breed those offspring to eachother thats where the magic happens lol

[Dan72]

Nice to know Tommy, thanks! The 2.2 you have from Scott, they are something you are keeping for future breeding down the road? I mean I know eventually the easy thing to do is if you want snows then get a pair of snows and bam, whole litter of snows, no guess work. Same goes for anything blizzard, axanthic, albino, whatever. But I just think the coolest thing is to have a pair of animals that when you breed them to each other you get a bucket full of different stuff. So I just need a pair of snow or blizzard. Breed high red examples to them to get my high red hets. Keep all those animals to in turn breed back to each other, then I will end up with snows and blizzards who are then also het for other things? Now I'm confused . Arghhh! I'm just going to keep breeding things into things and never part with anything, (kidding). Not the breeding, just the non parting of things.

[Tommytradix]

Nice to know Tommy, thanks! The 2.2 you have from Scott, they are something you are keeping for future breeding down the road? I mean I know eventually the easy thing to do is if you want snows then get a pair of snows and bam, whole litter of snows, no guess work. Same goes for anything blizzard, axanthic, albino, whatever. But I just think the coolest thing is to have a pair of animals that when you breed them to each other you get a bucket full of different stuff. So I just need a pair of snow or blizzard. Breed high red examples to them to get my high red hets. Keep all those animals to in turn breed back to each other, then I will end up with snows and blizzards who are then also het for other things? Now I'm confused . Arghhh! I'm just going to keep breeding things into things and never part with anything, (kidding). Not the breeding, just the non parting of things.

when the 2 different snow types are bred all normals are produced. you will not get morphs from the first paiting you will get all quad hets that are het for iowa anery iowa albino nebraska anery nebraska albino. the two types are not compatible to produce morphs on the first breeding only offspring will produce every morph the genes dont line up until they are mixed if that makes sense lol