New Black and White Eastern Garter Morph Found!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jeff B]

My initial thought was that this is some form of leucistic, but the more I look at it I think maybe axanthic, or like a lot of garter genes something in between classic definition based on other snake species. It has normal eyes unlike leucistics. What do you guys think? Joe would really like to hear your take, but please don't tell me that it is melanistic or that you don't have an opinion
I could always call it Dalmatian, it is white with black spots.

[BUSHSNAKE]

My initial thought was that this is some form of leucistic, but the more I look at it I think maybe axanthic, or like a lot of garter genes something in between classic definition based on other snake species. It has normal eyes unlike leucistics. What do you guys think? Joe would really like to hear your take, but please don't tell me that it is melanistic or that you don't have an opinion
I could always call it Dalmatian, it is white with black spots.

you talking about me? I don't need you to speak for me Jeff you punk j/k good luck with it.

[Jeff B]

you talking about me? I don't need you to speak for me Jeff you punk j/k good luck with it.

hhhhm, was hoping for some legitamate scientific reasoning and input...

[BUSHSNAKE]

hhhhm, was hoping for some legitamate scientific reasoning and input...

if you want you can send it to me and ill get you some answers in a couple years...that's the fun of having something new SO go have some fun with it and let us know what you find out

[Jeff B]

if you want you can send it to me and ill get you some answers in a couple years...that's the fun of having something new SO go have some fun with it and let us know what you find out

Point taken, first things first keep it alive and breed it in spring.

[Albert Clark]

Point taken, first things first keep it alive and breed it in spring.

What morph are you planning to pair the black and white to first? Do you have someone on the lookout for others at the original capture location in PA?

[Jeff B]

What morph are you planning to pair the black and white to first? Do you have someone on the lookout for others at the original capture location in PA?

All and yes

[BUSHSNAKE]

hhhhm, was hoping for some legitamate scientific reasoning and input...

at this point everything is speculation...right??

[Jeff B]

at this point everything is speculation...right??

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