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[ssssnakeluvr]

absolutely t sirtalis sirtalis, eastern garter. they vary greatly in patterns and colors

[Albert Clark]

absolutely t sirtalis sirtalis, eastern garter. they vary greatly in patterns and colors

Correct Don! And they have areas where they encroach on other sirtalis subspecies as well. Intergrades exist as do wc highbrids. It's not a one way rigid formula approach as some suggest. It's not uncommon either for phenotypical appearances to be mistaken for something it isn't.

[Blueboost68]

No problem sometimes I am not even clear to myself much less others.

[Blueboost68]

Post 16 opps infernalis

[Tommytradix]

Correct Don! And they have areas where they encroach on other sirtalis subspecies as well. Intergrades exist as do wc highbrids. It's not a one way rigid formula approach as some suggest. It's not uncommon either for phenotypical appearances to be mistaken for something it isn't.

t.s.sirtalis and t.s.infernalis intergrades are impossible. hybrids, yes but not intergrades. their ranges are way too far apart. intergrade is the term used for crosses in the wild in a uncontrolled envirement. hybrid is the term used when humans purposely breed 2 different species/subspecies in a captive setting. as for the formula, you can do a scale count to find out the species/subspecies.