Anyone ever cross tetrataenia with blotched ssp. (infernalis, concinnus, parietalis)

[KITKAT]

Beautiful babies, Zooplan!

That one pic makes me think of a caption!

[drache]

Beautiful babies, Zooplan!

That one pic makes me think of a caption!

me too
and now I'm curious . . .

[Bay_area]

I personally against trying to hybrid snakes. With that said, their is a spot in San Mateo County that I know about where tetrataenia & infernalis both live among other species of garters. I know for a fact that those two do naturally cross breed in the wild. Nothing prettier than seeing a SF Garter in the wild!

This pic was taken by a friend of mine @ one of the few locations they can still be found

[zooplan]

The hybrids shown up, are produced by a kind of accident.
Most breeders here are against hybrids too.
Nice to see, that there are still a few ´tetrataenia left in the wild.
European breeders would give a hand or a leg to get one as fresh blood for the European strain.

[Bay_area]

European breeders would give a hand or a leg to get one as fresh blood for the European strain.

Not worth going to prision for

I have Eastern Indigos & it sure would be great to have a fresh strain available to breed them too

[zooplan]

what penalty is set to something like catching, keeping, breeding, selling or shipping a San Franzisco Garter Snake to Europe?
Would there be any way to get a permission for that?

[G-natrix]

Penalties are severe -- potentially you could do jail time and the fine is something like $20,000.00 USD (that's right - twenty THOUSAND dollars) PER SNAKE.

There's a procedure for getting a permit but they're hard to get & take a couple years sometimes to process. You would need to have a pretty good conservation and/or science angle to get the permit. They don't give them out for breeders or pet trade associated uses.

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[Bay_area]

what penalty is set to something like catching, keeping, breeding, selling or shipping a San Franzisco Garter Snake to Europe?
Would there be any way to get a permission for that?

Not sure of the penalty, but it is Federally Protected not just a State crime. The "Feds" have more power & will prosecute to the fullest no matter what. Even know we are not doing anything wrong, when we see one in the wild, I am nervous the whole time while taking pics of them

Another Federally protected snake in my area is the Alameda Striped Racer.
A beatiful snake!