Anyone ever cross tetrataenia with blotched ssp. (infernalis, concinnus, parietalis)

[drache]

that's the thing
it's not so much the loss of habitat, as the degradation
both in the SF bay area as well as around other urban areas
once the environment - especially the water - gets cleaned up and there are more stringent disposal laws, the animals often return and are able to proliferate again

[Bay_area]

that's the thing
it's not so much the loss of habitat, as the degradation
both in the SF bay area as well as around other urban areas
once the environment - especially the water - gets cleaned up and there are more stringent disposal laws, the animals often return and are able to proliferate again

I have to disagree, The loss of habitat is the major problem. I do not know how things work in your Country, but in California it is sad. Unless the land has been set aside by the park systems there is no guarantee that the land will not be developed. If a developer wants to build on property they get an enviromental report. If the report says there are endangered spiecies on the land, you would think that would be the end of it. NOT! The devopers have lobbiest that go to the Politicians & get them to "bend the rules" to build if they relocate animals or set aside a portion of the property for wilderness. In a nut shell, that is what happens. It is a little more complex than that, but it does come down to who has the most money to donate to political campaigns. It is hard to get anyone to listen to anyone that fights for animals because the bad image that certain enviromental wackos have painted for those that want to help. Sort of like how the abortion clinic bombers gave a bad picture of what a Christian is.

Please do not take this wrong, I am glad that I live in USA, it just isn't a perfect system