Quote Originally Posted by Zephyr View Post
Apparently, from on one of my field guides, there are wild populations of melanistics along the banks of lake Eerie. I'll be going there this summer.

Really? Me too. I plan on going late spring. I have some plus locations for melanistic sirtalis and butleri.

I know the lake erie water snake is protected. But I've never heard any thing about the melanistic garters there.