Quote Originally Posted by tyflier View Post
Well..I was going to read your entire post, but then I got to this:

And quit because you are absolutely, positively, without a doubt, 100% WRONG. L.g. californae can be kept under the EXACT SAME CONDITIONS as a MAJORITY of the Pantherophis genera of snakes without any issues.
I think you're just being remarkably myopic.

How else do you explain the FACT that you can find Cali kings in the same area as several species of ratsnake, including, but not limited to, obsoleta, spiloides, and emoryi? How esle do you explain the FACT that California king care is precisely the same as Florida king care and floridana are found in the exact same locations as guttata? How else do you explain the FACT that with MINOR variations in temperature(and we're talking 3-5*F here...not 10 or 15...) you can keep ALL snakes in the Lampropeltis genus, and they are mostly found within FEET of many species in the Pantherophis family?
Why do you think they are found in the same area? Do you think there might be connection between that reason and maybe a reason why somebody might assert that you can't keep cali kings the same way that you can keep corns or other rat snakes?

If nothing else...please realize that a difference of 3-5*F is something that all 50 of my Lampropeltis, Pantherophis, Lichanura, Pituophis, and Thamnophis are seperated by, and they all thrive and reproduce...without any issues. And I have done it this way for 20 years and change without a single issue...
Oh, so now we've narrowed down the term "care" as well, first to "conditions" and then to "temperature" (and we've added a boid as well). So let's see if I've got this straight: "Standard" means applicable to an arbitrary percentage and according to rules that can be arbitrarily be ignored, "colubrid" means the three North American species of colubrid that are sold most often and "care" means temperature.