What locality of garter snake??

[BUSHSNAKE]

that could very well be a redsided garter...with no red, yeah they come like that too.

[Albert Clark]

that could very well be a redsided garter...with no red, yeah they come like that too.

So would you say its a het, or just a plain red sided that may or may not show red as he ages? Maybe op can ask to see the pictures of the parents? No, scratch that.

[BUSHSNAKE]

So would you say its a het, or just a plain red sided that may or may not show red as he ages? Maybe op can ask to see the pictures of the parents? No, scratch that.

just a plain red sided, red sided garters don't really gain any red coloration as they grow so it will look like that forever lol

[Albert Clark]

just a plain red sided, red sided garters don't really gain any red coloration as they grow so it will look like that forever lol

Which one? Parieatalis ?

[BUSHSNAKE]

Which one? Parieatalis ?

yeah parietalis, every subspecies of sirtalis west of the Mississippi river is red sided and ive had them all. I personally never thought any gain red as they grow, how they look as babies is how they look as adults that's just my opinion

[Albert Clark]

Thanks

[Jeff B]

I think it is safe to say that the snake sold was misrepresented as the picture is of a neon blue california red-sided, T. sirtalis infernalis and the snake purchased is not. Like I said it is hard to say if that was just and ignorant mistake, thinking that "a red-sided is a red-sided"

[Albert Clark]

So, the parietalis that do have erythrystic showing are from a different locale outside the west of the Mississippi. Does the coastal garter fall into that locale or are they just a western species?

[guidofatherof5]

So, the parietalis that do have erythrystic showing are from a different locale outside the west of the Mississippi. Does the coastal garter fall into that locale or are they just a western species?

T. e. terrestris (Coast garter snake)

[BUSHSNAKE]

So, the parietalis that do have erythrystic showing are from a different locale outside the west of the Mississippi. Does the coastal garter fall into that locale or are they just a western species?

I think im just confusing you lol sometimes I don't know when to shut up