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    Re: Taxonomic discussion

    Steph, what a GREAT idea! That would be so helpful!
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    Re: Taxonomic discussion

    I like it here in MI... Where it's either T. sirtalis sirtalis, T. sauritus sauritus, or T. butleri butleri.
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    Re: Taxonomic discussion

    And that's why we're changing the process, Stefan, because we know more now than 150 years ago.

    Just think what scientests will be able to do 150 years from now.

    But always, I think, we're getting closer and closer to either grouping better or realizing it's fruitless.

    Fascinating.
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    Re: Taxonomic discussion

    It's like that DNA deal going down with the one woman from Africa a trazillion years ago and tracing your ancestory through the DNA of your mother's mother's mother's mother's mother's mother's mother's mother.

    You know what I mean?
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    Re: Taxonomic discussion

    I am at a lost here, but I enjoy reading everyone's posts!! Very interesting & informative!! Love the pictures!!
    Stephanie




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    Re: Taxonomic discussion

    it's a fascinating subject, to be sure
    to me mostly a spectator sport
    rhea
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    Re: Taxonomic discussion

    I agree with Rhea, and I agree with Dekay.

    Size has ssssoooo much to do with success. It's like a fish tank: it's easier to maintain a correct balance in a larger one than smaller since with smaller problems become more urgent or deadly more quickly due to the small size. A bigger tank is more forgiving with errors and there's more time to correct them.
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    Re: Taxonomic discussion

    Very good stuff guys! Thank you Stefan for finding that article and thank you Steven for interpreting some of it. A lot of it is over my head, but I love to learn, especially when the subject is near and dear to my heart. I need to look at range maps of tetrataenia a little closer, but there is still a decent amount of land in that area. Maybe this little recession we're in will halt building for a while? Now, whether more sensitive prey can survive on that land I don't know... is there any thought that perhaps the range could be expanded some or would that be too detrimental to that area's current occupants? It's sad no matter how you look at it, but I'm going to share Rhea's optimism for now.
    Tami

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    from being a little mentally ill, she's pretty normal.

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