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    Re: Black racer and her eggs..pics

    thanks James

    I forgot to add though... I do keep the eggs in an airtight container, but I open the container once every 4 or 5 days to peek at the eggs and make sure they still look good, rehydrate if it's too dry in there, and of course, to allow fresh air into the container. The eggs do breathe!!
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    Thanks for your post, Shannon.
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    wow awesome!
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    Re: Black racer and her eggs..pics

    Quote Originally Posted by aSnakeLovinBabe View Post
    Generally our lovely north american colubrids don't need a super high incubation temperature, just keep them somewhere between 76 and 82 at all times, and humid as well, and they should do just fine! I don't use an incubator for my corn and king eggs because it's not necessary. I just stick the egg containers in one of the lighting compartments of my snakeroom. It stays perfect in there. I'm not sure I would keep them outside on your porch, the temps might drop a tad low there. Remember, when the mom snake layed them, she layed them in all that dirt and stuff that is insulated so that the eggs maintain a more constant temperature, so that if the temps drop a bit low at night they will survive it. If they are exposed and one night it gets a little chilly, they won't stand a chance. My black racer eggs last year hatched after 2 month and a few days (don't remember exactly), I incubated them the same way I incubate my kings and corns. I keep the eggs in a small tupperware container that is airtight on moist (but not wet!) paper toweling. I also have another moist paper towel covering the eggs. Just make sure it's not actually WET, because too much moisture will also kill the eggs. The eggs will tell you if it's too dry, within a few hours they will start to have small dents. As long as you quickly add humidity they will go right back up. it's a really good idea to take a non toxic marker or pencil and put a dot at the very top of each egg however it's laying so you know that they are always facing right side up. The eggs CANNOT be rolled over once they are layed, within 24 hours the embryo attatches itself to the inner mebrane of the egg towards the top, and if rolled over, since it's attatched it can't "float" back to the top and will be smothered by the yolk of the egg.
    Thanks, what a wealth of info. The eggs in the container are about half or more buried in moist sand. I have the sand on top of the moist paper towels, to help maintain the temp. Also have a slightly damp paper towel on top, with dark t-shirt type material over that to keep light out, the container is dark with a clear cover. The thermometer says it is staying above 74 in there even early of the morning before the sun is up. The night time lows here are only 68 to 70 right now at the lowest and the humidity is outrageous. (welcome to the southeast huh? ) I think we have fairly accurately mimicked where the mother had laid them. I am glad you mentioned not rolling them. I knew that about alligator and crocodile eggs, but a friend who hatched snake eggs for a reptile center said they did not think that true for snake eggs. We were not moving them once we made the nest anyway, but the day we added sand was close to the 24 hour mark.. I hope we did not kill any. I will mark the tops so if we do have to move them we won't kill any more.

    THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU!!! again for all the info.. All of you!! I will keep a close check on the temperature, if the temps are going to drop during the night I will set a heating pad under the container, and keep an eye on the thermometer in the container.

    Thanks again to EVERYONE..



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    Re: Black racer and her eggs..pics

    Quote Originally Posted by aSnakeLovinBabe View Post
    thanks James

    I forgot to add though... I do keep the eggs in an airtight container, but I open the container once every 4 or 5 days to peek at the eggs and make sure they still look good, rehydrate if it's too dry in there, and of course, to allow fresh air into the container. The eggs do breathe!!

    I put very teeny tiny holes in the top of the container, it is maintaining moisture very well.. Well the humidity in the air is so high we have not had to rehydrate yet, and I open the container at least once a day just to look and see if they need any hydration, so I think they will get enough air?? What says you?

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    Wow! That's great. I am filthy with wild garters and milk snakes, but racers are threatened in Vermont. I've always wanted to see one. And ring necks. Maybe I'll go look under rocks tomorrow, I'm inspired.

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    Re: Black racer and her eggs..pics

    Quote Originally Posted by Mom2Four View Post
    I put very teeny tiny holes in the top of the container, it is maintaining moisture very well.. Well the humidity in the air is so high we have not had to rehydrate yet, and I open the container at least once a day just to look and see if they need any hydration, so I think they will get enough air?? What says you?
    the little holes are enough to maintain air flow. They don't need much air until they hatch and start breathing. They just need oxygen to be contacting the surface of the egg at all times so that the embryo can absorb it through the egg's shell. You will probably have to open the container a few times to add just a little bit of moisture, especially as the eggs get closer to term, they tend to suck up water and they even grow in size a little, then right before they hatch the usually shrivel and discolor slightly a day or two before hand and look like a raisin. This doesn't always happen but often it will. I assume its from the baby snake absorbing the yolk and starting to move around as it cuts the shell but i could be wrong there. Just remember, it is possible for them to take on too much water and that will kill them, so never allow it to be WET in there, or for any water droplets to directly contact the eggs. Watch closely for any mold and if any starts growing, move that egg away from others and gently wipe it clean. Sometimes they will make it, sometimes not. Don't feel bad if a few of the eggs die, I have lost over half my kingsnake clutch I have come from 10 to just 4 eggs (i think the power outage was too much for them).

    I'd love to hear from you when they hatch!!! I would love to give a pair of these a home
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