Quote Originally Posted by GarterGuy View Post
Just wait 'til they break up sirtalis! I have a feeling it's going to happen. We'll end up with more species and less subspecies.
Perhaps, but the other possibility (which relates to the terrestris departure) is that there may be less subspecies and only one species (with unsupported races)!

Some geneticists are speciating (breaking up subspecies into individual species statuses) garters, while others counter with a result that aims to lump all subspecies into one species. Who's right? If you want to know , become a genetecist! 'Tis the only way to solve this. Unfortunately there are too many self-righteous PhD's out there.