Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post

@ aSnakeLovinBabe: Not you too! another concinnus owner? I can't believe it. 15 years ago, hardly any Thamnophis breeder even knew what I was talking about and was totally unfamiliar with the subspecies. Now I'm hearing about concinnus breeders on other continents and I've found so many right here in this forum. Wow. Oh, and it wasn't "thickness" that threw me off. It's the long, thin body and tail that made me think it was male. The overall gradual tapering. Of course, from the photo, I don't have the option of looking underneath to see the distance from vent to tail tip.
oh yes! me too! I own 2.2 concinnus at the moment, 1.2 of those are my high black/reduced pattern project. With those I am aiming to make an all black snake with the bright green stripe and bright red head. My females are almost at that point, but not quite. and 1 is what I call the rainbow male. Concinnus is actually one of the very first subspecies of garter I worked with. Rhea (username Drache) is sending me her Concinnus female who has similar features to my rainbow male, so that we may selectively breed for the most colorful concinnus out there! I had a REALLY cool male that had some abberrant-looking splotches of black bleeding all through his normal colors, but sadly I lost him.